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[Audacity-devel] Releasing 4 months from selection of RM
James Crook
2017-04-11 09:20:49 UTC
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I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.

Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.

I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about RM/DM
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.

Hopefully this will keep the inbox-torrent within reason.

--James.
James Crook
2017-04-11 09:49:35 UTC
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Post by James Crook
I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.
Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.
I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about RM/DM
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.
Hopefully this will keep the inbox-torrent within reason.
--James.
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Vaughan Johnson
2017-04-11 20:03:36 UTC
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Post by James Crook
I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.
Yeah, I'm not going to count yours, but they must be of similar
number. And I wasn't the only one on that thread. Blame game.
Unnecessary drama.
Post by James Crook
Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.
Being RM without our having agreed what that is. Or what decisions are
impeding progress in dev phase.

You still haven't answered my statements that we did fine for years
with RM powers only during Release Process. Specifics. Lib updates
have not been an issue. i wouldn't keep asking if you'd answer, rather
than just repeating that we need an RM RIGHT NOW.
Post by James Crook
I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about RM/DM
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.
I'm surprised you're so worked up about this. Just my suggestion that
we might have a discussion whether we want to extend powers and
duration of RM -- we have NOT explicitly agreed on that. You needn't
obsess about "DM". I just care what the role is, not the title.

Your being so irritated by it contradicts your and Gale having
invented "QM" whole cloth with no agreement among ***@. At least I
brought it up for discussion rather than just invent a new title team@
did not agreed to.

I already said I'm +1 for Paul, and I'm grateful for him volunteering.
Just don't see why we need an RM all the time. And btw, as I said,
we've only ever had one volunteer at a time to do it, and now, so we
don't need to nominate or vote.

Hey, guess what James, I'm sick of this conversation, too, because you
keep refusing to answer my questions and concerns, BUT...

With all the participation in the nomination discussion, I guess the
people who were concerned about this increased power/duration of RM no
longer are .

SO I CONCEDE. Majority apparently now agrees RM is from one release
until the next. OK. Hey, let's put it in the bylaws so there's no
confusion with the traditional scope.

- Vaughan
Post by James Crook
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--James.
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Steve the Fiddle
2017-04-12 01:10:11 UTC
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Post by Vaughan Johnson
Post by James Crook
I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.
Yeah, I'm not going to count yours, but they must be of similar
number. And I wasn't the only one on that thread. Blame game.
Unnecessary drama.
Post by James Crook
Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.
Being RM without our having agreed what that is. Or what decisions are
impeding progress in dev phase.
You still haven't answered my statements that we did fine for years
with RM powers only during Release Process. Specifics. Lib updates
have not been an issue. i wouldn't keep asking if you'd answer, rather
than just repeating that we need an RM RIGHT NOW.
Post by James Crook
I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about RM/DM
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.
I'm surprised you're so worked up about this. Just my suggestion that
we might have a discussion whether we want to extend powers and
duration of RM -- we have NOT explicitly agreed on that. You needn't
obsess about "DM". I just care what the role is, not the title.
Your being so irritated by it contradicts your and Gale having
did not agreed to.
I already said I'm +1 for Paul, and I'm grateful for him volunteering.
Just don't see why we need an RM all the time. And btw, as I said,
we've only ever had one volunteer at a time to do it, and now, so we
don't need to nominate or vote.
Hey, guess what James, I'm sick of this conversation, too, because you
keep refusing to answer my questions and concerns, BUT...
With all the participation in the nomination discussion, I guess the
people who were concerned about this increased power/duration of RM no
longer are .
SO I CONCEDE. Majority apparently now agrees RM is from one release
until the next.
I don't see how that follows, and I don't think it's the case.

Steve
Post by Vaughan Johnson
OK. Hey, let's put it in the bylaws so there's no
confusion with the traditional scope.
- Vaughan
Post by James Crook
Hopefully this will keep the inbox-torrent within reason.
--James.
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Peter Sampson
2017-04-12 07:06:43 UTC
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Post by Steve the Fiddle
Post by Vaughan Johnson
Post by James Crook
I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.
Yeah, I'm not going to count yours, but they must be of similar
number. And I wasn't the only one on that thread. Blame game.
Unnecessary drama.
Post by James Crook
Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.
Being RM without our having agreed what that is. Or what decisions are
impeding progress in dev phase.
You still haven't answered my statements that we did fine for years
with RM powers only during Release Process. Specifics. Lib updates
have not been an issue. i wouldn't keep asking if you'd answer, rather
than just repeating that we need an RM RIGHT NOW.
Post by James Crook
I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about RM/DM
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.
I'm surprised you're so worked up about this. Just my suggestion that
we might have a discussion whether we want to extend powers and
duration of RM -- we have NOT explicitly agreed on that. You needn't
obsess about "DM". I just care what the role is, not the title.
Your being so irritated by it contradicts your and Gale having
did not agreed to.
I already said I'm +1 for Paul, and I'm grateful for him volunteering.
Just don't see why we need an RM all the time. And btw, as I said,
we've only ever had one volunteer at a time to do it, and now, so we
don't need to nominate or vote.
Hey, guess what James, I'm sick of this conversation, too, because you
keep refusing to answer my questions and concerns, BUT...
With all the participation in the nomination discussion, I guess the
people who were concerned about this increased power/duration of RM no
longer are .
SO I CONCEDE. Majority apparently now agrees RM is from one release
until the next.
I don't see how that follows, and I don't think it's the case.
I don't think it's the case either.

Peter
Post by Steve the Fiddle
Steve
Post by Vaughan Johnson
OK. Hey, let's put it in the bylaws so there's no
confusion with the traditional scope.
- Vaughan
Post by James Crook
Hopefully this will keep the inbox-torrent within reason.
--James.
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Martyn Shaw
2017-04-13 23:48:28 UTC
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On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:10 AM, Steve the Fiddle <
Post by Steve the Fiddle
Post by Vaughan Johnson
Post by James Crook
I've just read 11 emails from Vaughan about RM.
Yeah, I'm not going to count yours, but they must be of similar
number. And I wasn't the only one on that thread. Blame game.
Unnecessary drama.
Post by James Crook
Without them we would be well on the way to Paul being RM, and instead
of faffing around with process, actually making decisions.
Being RM without our having agreed what that is. Or what decisions are
impeding progress in dev phase.
You still haven't answered my statements that we did fine for years
with RM powers only during Release Process. Specifics. Lib updates
have not been an issue. i wouldn't keep asking if you'd answer, rather
than just repeating that we need an RM RIGHT NOW.
Post by James Crook
I don't have time to engage in a back and forth with Vaughan about
RM/DM
Post by Vaughan Johnson
Post by James Crook
(unless he raises having a DM as a VOTE) so instead am raising a VOTE
specifically about Paul and RMing this release.
I'm surprised you're so worked up about this. Just my suggestion that
we might have a discussion whether we want to extend powers and
duration of RM -- we have NOT explicitly agreed on that. You needn't
obsess about "DM". I just care what the role is, not the title.
Your being so irritated by it contradicts your and Gale having
did not agreed to.
I already said I'm +1 for Paul, and I'm grateful for him volunteering.
Just don't see why we need an RM all the time. And btw, as I said,
we've only ever had one volunteer at a time to do it, and now, so we
don't need to nominate or vote.
Hey, guess what James, I'm sick of this conversation, too, because you
keep refusing to answer my questions and concerns, BUT...
With all the participation in the nomination discussion, I guess the
people who were concerned about this increased power/duration of RM no
longer are .
SO I CONCEDE. Majority apparently now agrees RM is from one release
until the next.
I don't see how that follows, and I don't think it's the case.
I don't think it's the case either.
Not as I understood it either.

Martyn
Peter
Post by Steve the Fiddle
Steve
Post by Vaughan Johnson
OK. Hey, let's put it in the bylaws so there's no
confusion with the traditional scope.
- Vaughan
Post by James Crook
Hopefully this will keep the inbox-torrent within reason.
--James.
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