[Audacity-devel] Pre-history of the source tree

I see there is still this:
http://audacity.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/audacity/

But sould we find another home to mirror this old history, rather than rely
stil on sourceforge?

And can we figure out how to make a git repository of it? Even if that is
not one with our present active repository.

I can't figure out from this browser fiew how one might simply download all
history.

PRL

Post by Paul Licameli
I tried looking for old source for Audacity at archive.google.com and can
no longer find it. https://code.google.com/archive/p/audacity/source
Is all that history just lost now?
The migrated git reposistory has nothing before January, 2010. Why not?
Is there still some place to find the really old code, and migrate it to
another .git archive for safe keeping and reference?
PRL

James Crook

2017-01-28 17:21:27 UTC

Paul...

There were two migrations. One from Sourceforge to code.google.com, one
from code.google.com to GitHub. The second one did preserve history.

Note that https://github.com/JamesCrook/audacity-from-svn-5GB is a more
complete version of what was at code.google.com, including the website,
Mezzo, and SVN branches.

Yes, we can figure out how to make a Git repository of Audacity with the
full history, since we already did conversion for SVN to Git.

--James.

Post by Paul Licameli
http://audacity.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/audacity/
But sould we find another home to mirror this old history, rather than rely
stil on sourceforge?
And can we figure out how to make a git repository of it? Even if that is
not one with our present active repository.
I can't figure out from this browser fiew how one might simply download all
history.
PRL

Paul Licameli

2017-01-28 18:33:19 UTC

Thank you, James!

Now I have a clone for reference on my Macbook.

Beware, clone it with --bare to avoid a huge tree. Old svn branches are
not stored as Git branches but as subdirectories in the tree. Not the most
convenient organization, but will do for reference and browsing with gitk.

I wanted to look at very old versions of Dominic's noise removal. I used a
view of */NoiseRemoval.cpp in gitk and that worked, substituting any number
of folders for *.

I have also cloned sox and studied its noise reduction effect. No new
useful ideas for me there. Funny, I found this comment in src/noisered.c:

/* Audacity says this code will eliminate tinkle bells.
* I have no idea what that means. */

PRL

Post by James Crook
Paul...
There were two migrations. One from Sourceforge to code.google.com, one
from code.google.com to GitHub. The second one did preserve history.
Note that https://github.com/JamesCrook/audacity-from-svn-5GB is a more
complete version of what was at code.google.com, including the website,
Mezzo, and SVN branches.
Yes, we can figure out how to make a Git repository of Audacity with the
full history, since we already did conversion for SVN to Git.
--James.

Post by Paul Licameli
http://audacity.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/audacity/
But sould we find another home to mirror this old history, rather than

rely

Post by Paul Licameli
stil on sourceforge?
And can we figure out how to make a git repository of it? Even if that

Post by Paul Licameli
not one with our present active repository.
I can't figure out from this browser fiew how one might simply download

all

Post by Paul Licameli
history.
PRL

Post by Paul Licameli
I tried looking for old source for Audacity at archive.google.com and

can

Post by Paul Licameli
no longer find it. https://code.google.com/archive/p/audacity/source
Is all that history just lost now?
The migrated git reposistory has nothing before January, 2010. Why not?
Is there still some place to find the really old code, and migrate it to
another .git archive for safe keeping and reference?
PRL

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Richard Ash

2017-01-28 20:46:10 UTC

On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:33:19 -0500

Post by Paul Licameli
Thank you, James!
Now I have a clone for reference on my Macbook.

Vaughan Johnson

2017-01-31 04:33:20 UTC

Maybe worth noting that moving from Sourceforge CVS to Google Code SVN
lost attributions on what was then Ohloh. I think we each had to link
our separate accounts back, to get it right.

After the 2nd move, it looks like BlackDuck (descendant of Ohloh on
OpenHub , https://www.openhub.net/p/59?p=Audacity, has only the Git
commits. So now, for instance, it says all I ever did for Audacity is
website XML (!). And that Audacity's first commit ever was in 2010,
etc.

Any of you who know these ports able to modify the Github refs to make
BlackDuck extend back to first SF commits in 2000, so it's accurate
for all of us?

Thanks,
Vaughan

Post by Richard Ash
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:33:19 -0500

Post by Paul Licameli
Thank you, James!
Now I have a clone for reference on my Macbook.

This should be complete, i.e. include the CVS history from sourceforge
as well as the SVN history from google. When we migrated the code base
across I converted the entire CVS history (you could rsync it from
their servers at the time) into SVN history and pre-loaded it into
google, so that we were completely independent of Sourceforge at that
point.
So provided the git conversion worked OK (I haven't personally
checked), you should have the complete history to play with. A lot of
work was done on branches at some points in CVS, which I think became
SVN branches in the junk-branches top level directory? I can check if
necessary, because I made a lot of notes at the time.
Richard
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Gale Andrews

2017-01-29 02:09:27 UTC

Unless I don't know the correct tricks, it is disappointingly hard
now to browse git online. The only link at the bottom of commit
lists is now "Older" (no "Newer") and the URL is now a hash
rather than a page number.

I know I should be using installed tools to browse, but even so.

Gale

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Paul Licameli

2017-01-29 02:30:28 UTC

I recommend that you get acquainted with gitk. Change current directory to
your repository and launch gitk from the command line with the name of a
commit or of files of interest, or both (in that order). The top of the
detail view of each commit has links to parent and child commits, and to
the nearest tags in the history. You can browse for commits containing
some string in the comments, or restrict the view to those commits
affecting selected files. And so on.

PRL

Post by Gale Andrews
Unless I don't know the correct tricks, it is disappointingly hard
now to browse git online. The only link at the bottom of commit
lists is now "Older" (no "Newer") and the URL is now a hash
rather than a page number.
I know I should be using installed tools to browse, but even so.
Gale

Post by Paul Licameli
http://audacity.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/audacity/
But sould we find another home to mirror this old history, rather than

rely

Post by Paul Licameli
stil on sourceforge?
And can we figure out how to make a git repository of it? Even if that

Post by Paul Licameli
not one with our present active repository.
I can't figure out from this browser fiew how one might simply download

all

Post by Paul Licameli
history.
PRL
On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:41 AM, Paul Licameli <

Post by Paul Licameli
I tried looking for old source for Audacity at archive.google.com and

can

Post by Paul Licameli
no longer find it. https://code.google.com/archive/p/audacity/source
Is all that history just lost now?
The migrated git reposistory has nothing before January, 2010. Why

not?

Post by Paul Licameli
Is there still some place to find the really old code, and migrate it